# Atheist Muslim Debate At The University! - HE COULDN'T ANSWER!

- Language: en
- Published: 2026-08-25
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- Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bf0gHh6ORwc
- Channel: Towards Eternity

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i am an atheist i was a true muslim but then i believe that a chain of coincidences created man i was not a so-called muslim like today's muslims i was praying i read the quran i learned to read the quran in arabic i definitely don't have a tight perspective i'm not narrow-minded if someone gives me rational explanations and satisfying answers to my questions i can return to religious belief again what are you doing are you studying at me too too yes i'm studying psychology at mtu our topic today is beliefs can you tell me a little about yours well i am an atheist but till two to three years ago i was a muslim i was not a so-called muslim like today's muslims i was praying i read the quran i

learned to read the quran in arabic i read the translation of the quran i was fasting so i was a muslim a true muslim but after doing research i realized some things that didn't sit well with me and started not to believe i also came across your videos with atheists they said they didn't believe but couldn't defend their opinion i don't know maybe young people look at atheism differently and most become atheists without any research or knowledge so they can't defend their beliefs they seemed wrong about being atheists because they weren't able to say what was necessary it's like they became atheists to look cool or something you're saying we talked to uninformed atheists yes i think they

were uninformed so can you say you're knowledgeable i did my own research i mean i tried to answer the questions that bugged me and i definitely don't have a tight perspective i'm not narrow-minded if i presented my questions to someone and he gave explanations that make sense why wouldn't i believe again as far as i understand you want to have proof and proceed rationally well can you give me one piece of evidence for the non-existence of god or a sign of non-existence i can't definitely say that there is no creator actually i'm a bit agnostic towards god but i definitely think that religions don't exist then let's look at the creator first when knowledge is available obscurity's removed

for example if i were to ask how many students are in this university you'd say i don't know if we find an evidence a feature or a document is given to us on paper there will be no unknown aspect right yes if i were to give you the proof for the existence of the creator offer you rational logical and clear evidence could we close this topic of the unknown i can't do that right away i need to research first but i will give you evidence okay i'm listening if the evidence makes sense you can decide right now yes tell me let's say we're in front of the selimiya mosque i'll give you one material and one concrete example we're in front of the selemia mosque and we're trying to find out a logical

answer to how it was built we have four basic options before us firstly we can either say there is a group of people who are deafblind and unintelligent next to this mosque and that they built this mosque by mutual agreement or secondly the bricks of the mosque agreed among themselves and said what are we waiting for let's build a mosque i'd say that the brics built this mosque by themselves or the third option i see the architectural project manual inside the mosque describing the construction stages and i say that this manual built the mosque or the fourth option there's an architect like mehmer sinan i say that an architect a genius like mimer built this mosque with his knowledge will and

might which of these options would you choose i'd definitely choose me okay but every human being is structured more complex and orderly compared to a mosque am i right humans yes when i look at human beings rationally and logically i need to ask the same question i look at human beings and a human has roughly 100 trillion cells and inside each cell there are 800 organelles named mitochondria and there are 10 000 particles named ribosomes each cell progresses systematically with an incredible structure according to biology professor michael denton each cell is a city like new york how many cells do we have in our body there are 100 trillion new york cells when i look at such a complex

structure i need to find a rational answer for how it's done the cells and bodies of human beings are not built once and left like a mosque isn't our body regenerating all the time yes it is every second 10 000 red blood cells are created and 50 million cells are refreshed and in our brains aren't there 10 to 16 processes happening every second there are i've looked at this complex structure and i'm going to ask the same rational question i still have four options to find out how a human being is built daily one i will say that these deafblind and unintelligent nature events made human beings in mutual agreement but this is illogical why because how will blind deaf and unintelligent events

come to an agreement and choose to continuously make human beings earlier we said that if a mosque can't be built like this neither can humans right the things you mentioned can't the second option the atoms that form and create the human body in between themselves they must have said what are we waiting for let's create this human being and they continued to do it all the time the mind would not accept this either why as we said bricks could not get together to form a mosque then i'll say that lifeless atoms cannot agree between themselves to form this human being we initially accept this anyway or the third option we said that the project manual of the mosque could not create the mosque

because it is a book similarly i'd say that dna cannot create a human being because dna is the book not the author then i'll say that the dna can't be the phenomenon that forms a human being just like the manual or the fourth option we'll say yes there is an architect in the fourth option who is creating the human moment by moment continuing to create as he did in the beginning there is a knowledgeable entity who can make choices and has a will power and life just as mimar sunan built that mosque the creator of the universe created man and i'd say he's the architect who continues to make all the time then i will ask you this again as we accept the architect similarly shouldn't we accept that

the creator of the universe created humans he who created not only but millions and trillions of people from the beginning of the world shouldn't we accept an architect of the constant creation programming and refreshing of humans not necessarily i think these events take place due to a particular coincidence i think that a chain of coincidences created human beings hence i disagree with the idea that human beings must have a creator five people per second 350 000 people a day put the humans aside all living beings maybe millions of living beings are created every day i'm asking who do you attribute the construction ability to which is constantly going on who is the entity doing this all the

time my dna does that but look we said in the first example the manual cannot make the building we said that an architect would make the building according to the plan similarly dna cannot do the construction we must say that the architect arranges and creates humans according to the dna book you also didn't accept this in the first place yes dna does not do this the dna does not create the human there is dna in each of our cells in our core for instance the dna of the heart muscle cell tells it to beat in a certain way and it does what is the evidence for this what is the evidence that it gives instructions because dna is the book there is no power to command within itself dna is just a

system loaded with information you may have learned this in biology classes but after all our cell takes it and uses it no not using who makes it use there is a formation process but who is doing this i'm asking you about the one with this characteristic you say it's not dna then who okay let's say we got together somehow uh do we need a creator to get together like this i'm trying to say this a creator doesn't have to regenerate it you can't leave this attribute unanswered you have to say yeah okay if dna cannot then who i say okay let's talk about it i already gave you the attributes an attribute can't be left hanging let's settle this first we'd say that there must be someone with these

attributes without knowledge one cannot do this they must have knowledge those who do not have a will cannot make decisions and obviously cannot do this it must have the power in other words its power must be continuous and it must have a life because we'd say that a lifeless matter cannot do this process and someone without these qualities these attributes cannot create the human being and look i'm just giving the example of a human i say that it cannot make a human being and cannot continue to do so because there has to be someone with this attribute i'm looking at nature is it lifeless it is lifeless does it have knowledge no it is blind deaf and unintelligent remember the first example

again we said that this cannot make a mosque i like to ask who is the responsible of this event the event that i encounter every day if it's not dna it cannot be left unanswered either there has to be someone you can say let's leave it as x for the moment let's put a question mark but there has to be a person with four attributes an entity who exists we said that three of the four options are impossible we came to this conclusion together only one option necessarily remains okay let's just admit it let's say humans have to be created okay should it necessarily be a god as muslims describe for example babies a baby dies what happens to that baby he's sinless he goes to heaven so what's the

difference between a sinless baby going to heaven and my teacher giving me an a because there isn't any exam paper left after all we have to complete this test we will either pass or fail so a candidate comes to the exam room and they say there's no exam paper left for you your exam is over and they pass directly do you think this is fair what is justice we need to talk about it first because in order to talk about justice we have to give something in return for example you went to buy a phone okay you bought a phone from a store if the phone turns out to be broken you can go to customer service or court because you gave money for it right yes why because you gave something in return but

let's say a man came here and saw we were chatting he said what a nice conversation you guys are having then he gave you two cars as a gift then he gave me five villas can you say hey brother what's the matter how come you gave me two cars but gave him five villas this isn't fair i will go to court and complain what would the judge say to you like this humans too cannot object at some point because humans do not give anything in return but he was bound to be blessed on earth with the blessings he received as a gift and eventually go to heaven then we'll say that since i did not give anything in return the notion of justice is not applicable here if you ask then why is he going to heaven i'm

at risk i ask you brother take off your coat and wear it inside out and if i say you're going to change the color of this coat would you accept it would it make sense no why because the code is yours the owner has the rights he wishes on it likewise the earth paradise and the hereafter are properties of god the owner has the rights he wishes on the properties for example he can create a plant directly on earth or directly plant it in heaven how can we object no why not there is a rose here he can plant a rose there too just like the baby think of a baby rose for example he can bring the baby directly here and after showing it to people and making it happy he can take that rose directly to

heaven i can't object here why because it doesn't concern me because god says in the verse we said that we will talk about islam god says in surah maryam and he will come to us alone alone so individually in other words everyone will be questioned individually for example whatever the trait you're given god will ask you about it he will ask me about what he gave me likewise our actions make us responsible for the traits given to us individually and so is the baby whether the baby comes here or not or goes directly to heaven it doesn't affect my justice and we say that god created humans individually whatever he has given individually he wants it back fairly it means that we should evaluate

it among these notions and think about the notion of justice in this way let's say something in islam does not seem rational to us the fact that something is not rational for us could not be proof that it's wrong why let's say we live in the era of mehmed the conqueror okay during the reign of mehmed the conqueror there were toras everywhere ottoman signatures and he issues an order saying no one will leave their house for five years does this make sense no it doesn't make sense can i be irrational and say there is no mehmet the conqueror can we come to such a conclusion no we can't can i say for the second example there are ottoman togras everywhere this seems like an irrational rule to me

then can i say that there is no ottoman region i can't why there are tohras everywhere it will cause us to ask why did mehmed the conqueror do such a thing why did he bring such a rule during his reign we'd question it similar to the example god brought down rules with islam if you say this example in islam does not make sense to me a conclusion such as if there is such a rule there is no god can't be taken the fact that i don't like a rule given by god is not a proof of the wrongness of islam which is its set of rules why because there are torahs everywhere for example there is a verse in surah room that talks about the future it says the byzantines have been defeated in the nearest land

but they after their defeat will overcome while everyone thinks that they'll lose the greeks come victorious afterwards by defeating the persians it's a verse that talks about the future about the event that will come exactly nine years after it and i'll say that this is a torah for me how can a human being foretell the future since a human cannot foretell the future the owner of this dota would be the owner of islam this means that the rules that seem illogical to me are not evidence for the wrongdoings of islam nor can they be evidence for the wrongdoing of god well then wouldn't it be more logical to open the door from inside by accepting islam look for answers for questions from within

islam i mean i think these are things to consider it's not something to decide quickly with the human intellect you say you will think about them yes i've always thought about religious matters and i will continue to think the work you're doing has shifted and diversified my thoughts it steered me in some direction i will think and analyze it in different ways this made me happy you