# "I Declare Myself As a Prophet!" - Breathtaking Debate Between Muslim Vs Non-Muslim! - Language: en - Published: 2026-08-26 - Canonical: https://blog.towardseternity.com/en/blog/i-declare-myself-as-a-prophet-breathtaking-debate-between-muslim-vs-non-muslim - Source video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4isHj55MaNk - Channel: Towards Eternity This is the cleaned transcript of the source video. The speech is unaltered. --- - I have no faith. They say Allah; they say God. Some worship monkeys. For example, most people worship money nowadays. Who proves that He sent the Prophet? How does he himself prove it and try to enlighten people by claiming to know everything? I think you are looking for the prophet in the wrong place. I'll tell you. + Everyone will add their own interpretation to it. + However, it is... - Then, let me declare my prophethood. If you say a prophet should enlighten... + Shouldn't he? - ... let me declare myself. He shouldn't. + I can prove it to you with an example. + Would it be a problem if I uploaded this (discussion) on YouTube? - No problem. I was born here but I've been living in England for the last two years. I've come here to see my friends after the pandemic because I haven't been here for a long time. I dream of a job in England. + What is your belief? - Well, I am a deist. I have respect for religions; I have respect for anyone believing in anything. People should have respect for me in the same way. My opinion on religions is that they're purely (about) "mass control". After all, it is said that there is heaven and hell. I think there is another side, but I don't know whether it's heaven or hell; After all, everyone will be in the same heaven or everyone will be burning in the same hell. Everyone suffers in this world the consequences of their mistakes in some way. One's life takes shape accordingly. For example, I don't go to a mosque to pray; I talk to the one above. I'm talking about what I believe in; is that clear? I try to respect all kinds of people as much as I can. I think that is what matters. Let me give you an example from Islam, I grew up with Muslims .... people go and pray; when ramadhan comes, they fast; but they don't respect others; they try to cheat; they tell lies. (All of) These are major sins in His (Allah's) eyes. + Were people's mistakes the reason why you left Islam? - No, it's not why I left Islam. I have never considered myself a member of any religion. + So, you've had no belief since childhood then? - I have no belief. They say Allah; they say God. Some worship monkeys; for example, most people worship money nowadays. + Then you believe in a Creator, since you are a deist. - Yes, of course. + I want to ask three questions related to this issue, related to deism. The first one: Do you think that the Creator you believe in is a being that works logically? - If He does (work), He works logically; yes. + Let's say you open a place here and you put antiques in it, okay? If we open an antiques place, we will light it up and we will put a guide in it, right? - Of course. + Why? Because otherwise it would be an illogical act. It is not logical to open an incomplete place. It's necessary to explain this place. Our logic says so. Then, using this same logic, I would like to ask about the Universe. When we open an antiques place, according to our logic, we would put a guide here and tell the people about the items and light up this place; (similarly) the Creator of the Universe, that is, Allah, defined this place; Is it possible for Him not to send the light of the prophet that will illuminate this place? Wouldn't that be illogical? - Well ... Let me say this: You say, there is a prophet, right? + Logically, because even this place is not understood without a guide, without light; how can the universe be understood without a guide, without a prophet's light? Earlier, we agreed that the Creator is logical and acts logically. - Let me put it this way: People can't do what they want to do because of their blind faiths and because of their ignorance. As a result, they continue living their lives with suppressed feelings. I mean the world is made up of people's imagination, I see it as the sum of people's dreams. We should actually, in this world, to ourselves and to those around us, need to be guides; to the people we are in contact with. Good and bad are relative, but when a generalization is made, I think good people in this world have the duty of being guides to other people. I try to be good to everyone as much as I can. + But I will ask this... - Let me continue .... as long as I enlighten my surroundings, people will be enlightened in a way and they will (in turn) enlighten their surroundings. + But I will ask this: The antique items can only be explained to us by a person who knows about those antique items. Otherwise, for example, there may be an item worth 100 million dollars, if someone who knows (its worth) does not inform us, I can come and value it at 100 dollars. Unless there is a prophet sent by the Creator Himself, everybody will add their own interpretation. + However, according to this basic logic... - Then, let me declare my prophethood. + How, for example? - I think I enlighten my surroundings. one hundred I think I am a very kind and compassionate individual. I mean, you wouldn't believe it if I told you here, I think there is a very different bond between me and Him. When I'm alone, I think endlessly; I think a lot. + Well, I'll ask you this: Are you claiming to be a prophet + and want to declare your prophethood then?! - I'm not, but if you say so! - I'm not, but if you say so! If you say a prophet should enlighten... - ... let me declare myself. + Shouldn't he? - I am telling you, He shouldn't. I think I enlighten the people around me. - I think I enlighten the people around me. + But at first... - I think I enlighten the people around me. So, who proves that He sent the prophet? How does He prove it himself and pretend to know everything and try to enlighten people? + Okay great; let's deal with that now. Before dealing with it... + Okay great; let's deal with that now. Before dealing with it... - Oh great; you were looking for this point? + What I mean is this, we said at first, when we view it logically, it is not logical for the one who gave us logic to act illogically. - Yes, absolutely. Of course, there is logic. I don't question that logic, I don't seek it because it is something that requires a lot of thought. You can't work it out; you'll go crazy. + But we've worked it out. Look, we... - It's not that, but no .... I do not know the logic; I say there is a logic; - it should not be illogical. + The basic logic is this: + Somebody to explain this place; Where did I come from? Why was I sent? Where am I going? What is the purpose of my creation? Why did the Creator create? An enlightenment that will explain the most basic questions to me. The prophetic light that will explain the meaning of the Universe to me that will guide me and answer my questions; the existence of a prophet whom He personally chose and to whom He gave the information; I say there must be a prophet. Otherwise, since we have accepted the Creator as a logical being, wouldn't we be saying that the Creator acted illogically? (by not sending a Prophet)? Because it would be an unwise act. - What you say sounds a bit illogical to me actually. I think you are looking for the prophet in the wrong place. I tell you what, my time is somewhat limited. + Okay, then let me ask you the other 2 questions. + Okay, then let me ask you the other 2 questions. - It was nice to meet you. - Don't think I'm running away. + No, no. Let me ask you the 2 questions then... - Ask. There are 2 more questions, ok. + OK. The 2nd question is this: Do you believe there is a heaven and hell after you die? - I want to believe. I hope they exist. We definitely don't come to this world in vain; we are not born and (we don't) die in vain. That would be very illogical. I hope there is. I want these eyes to open again somewhere when they are closed (at death). + Then I will ask this: In that case... - There is a place, maybe ... - ...not as heaven and hell... - Let's just say I know. + You believe there is a place. - Yes. + You know! + I'll ask you this then: If there is a Creator and a place like heaven or hell, If there is a place we will go (after death), based on what rule and what law will the Creator question us? Without specifying what is right and what is wrong, how will He put us into heaven or hell then? Wouldn't that be unfair? - Well, I think the biggest sin is really hurting and upsetting a person. After all, we are the servants of God. If you do not respect someone that God has created, even if you don't respect yourself in the first place, I think you have to respect others. Disrespect, breaking someone's heart, upsetting... the more people you hurt in your life, the more, on the other side, your chances increase of going to a place called hell. I would judge according to this. + Well then, question 3... - The better you are, the more .... + But that's the third question. - Yes. + If the Creator didn't give us a criteria, through a prophet, how will I understand what is good and what is bad? Wouldn't a personal concept of good and bad form? - There are books; every religion has a book. - The Torah, the Bible... + But you do not accept them. - Okay, I don't accept (them) but most people do. According to what is written there, they accept good and bad. What they learn from their families (to be good and bad) .... + What is it (good and bad) in reality? - In reality... + What, according to your belief? - As I've said, breaking a person's heart, upsetting him, is the biggest sin. + But according to what criteria? You say it is a sin, but according to what rule? - What I have experienced in my own life that is, when I did something wrong, when I upset someone, a lot of things happened to me .... There has been a huge change in me in the last 5 years. I have experienced things in my life that I cannot explain here. + Then I'll ask this: For example, you say in your opinion, I can say something completely different based on my experience for example, I could say: "I think doing evil to someone is good because it gives that person experience." Thus, won't everybody make a religion of their own? Then, according to what rule will the Creator question us? Wouldn't that be unfair? - As I've said, there are different opinions. People believe in different religions anyway; each book says something different. People's upbringing, culture are primarily shaped based on religion. + But you do not accept religions. - Okay, I don't accept them. + Then you individualize what is right and wrong. - Okay, then I'll say I don't know what is right and wrong. + But the Creator... we've said in the first place, acts logically and wisely by declaring what is right and wrong. You believe in heaven and hell .... then, accordingly, He should put us into heaven and hell. That is, He must send a book and a prophet. - If you are looking for a guide, this guide can be you. I think it's enough for you to believe that. If you're really doing something right, that thing is right. You know it; you feel it inside. If you are truly a believer, you already know if it's right or wrong. If you know it's wrong and if you do it on purpose, you will always be living with its pain in this world anyway. I can say as if you are burning in hell. + But as I said, this is individualism; + there has to be a rule. - Yes, it is individualism, - but there has to be individualism anyway. (Otherwise) The world would be one whole; there would be only one religion. there would be only one state if everyone had the same (criteria for) right and wrong. There is only one entity who knows this system; He is the Creator, as we say, Allah, God... whatever you call Him; and people enlighten themselves. This place needs a guide. I think the logic lies in this point. People have been given a mind to see if they can distinguish ... - ...right from wrong. + But we can't distinguish. + For example, Robin Hood... - If you can't... - that means you'll be destroyed. + But there will be no justice then. + But there will be no justice then. - I think I can ... - (distinguish right from wrong). I am a person of heaven. + But Robin Hood, for example, is what he did good or bad? - Depends on the era you live in. Look, he took from the rich and gave to the poor. - Look, he took from the rich and gave to the poor. + For example, + you may say that's good and I may say that's bad. - A person who has to die must die, - for example, in this life there are some people who do very bad things. I wouldn't care if they died; I wouldn't even get upset. + Then, it is murder. For example, in that case, I think... - That's not murder; I don't kill; that's just my opinion. Unless I do it... + But if we see it as a good deed, what kind of inference is it? - I'm sure he will do something bad. People who don't have the potential to do good will always do bad. + Wouldn't that cause chaos? + If that person is dead... - No, it wouldn't. + Do you think the Creator wants that? - No one (including the Creator) should make any rules. That person will get what he deserves, of course, one day. + But you say that killing is good in your opinion. If everyone speaks like that... - It's not about killing; it's about getting one's due share (of punishment) That is, something happening to him without any outside intervention. That's what I say. + That's a personal inference. Since we live in a society, then, you can call something good and I can call it bad but (then) we can't live together, why? Because we'll influence each other; then, there will be no common ground. You said we will go somewhere after we die. Then, there must be a rule so that those who do good will go there, and those who do evil will go there. Otherwise, how can heaven and hell be determined according to individual inferences? It isn't logical. If people decided what is good and bad on their own, then, they will (all) say, "I think I was good." Everybody will put themselves into heaven. Am I wrong? - Not everyone will go there. Everyone believes they will go. + But they think they did good deeds. - Maybe they can't go there after all. + Shouldn't there be a rule here, brother? + Shouldn't there be a rule here, brother? - A rule here... - Look, there are certain rules in the world. What do you see as being good? Tell me something bad. Let's discuss, say 50 things with you, whether they are good or bad. I'm sure they will all be common. At least 5-6 of them may fail. - But look. How do you know that this book - that was sent came ... + Look according to what ... and that someone didn't write it, that a prophet, someone who declared his prophethood, didn't write it, that he didn't deceive people and that he was not a very manipulative person? + I can prove it to you with one example. There is the chapter of Ar-Rum in the Quran. The following is stated in the first 4 verses (أعوذ بالله): الٓمٓ۠ غُلِبَتِ الرُّومُۙ ف۪ٓي اَدْنَى الْاَرْضِ وَهُمْ مِنْ بَعْدِ غَلَبِهِمْ سَيَغْلِبُونَۙ ف۪ي بِضْعِ سِن۪ينَۜ It goes on; it states the following: It talks about the war between the Byzantines and the Persians. The Roman Empire has been defeated in a land close by. but they, (even) after (this) defeat of theirs, will soon be victorious within a few (between 3 and 9) years." It is a war that took place at that time (when the above verses were revealed). It is also written in history books. The Byzantines were defeated so badly that everybody thought the Byzantines were finished; they thought it was all over. Just then, when everybody was thinking like that, the verses above were sent down: "Within 9 years, between 3 and 9 years, the Byzantines will be victorious." So, he made a claim about the future and look, brother, a war took place again 9 years later and the Byzantines defeated the Persians; they became victorious. If there is someone (correctly) foretelling about the future, (then) he was sent by the Creator. That is, I say that the Quran is true. - I know Christianity to a certain extent; I also know Islam. I went to the church and lit a candle there; I went to the mosque and prayed there. They are all deeds of worship according to one's own belief. I tell you; I don't perform prayers. I went to the mosque and prayed; I experienced it. But I talk to God; if you see what I mean. I respect the servants created by Allah. Maybe I don't worship Him, but be assured that it is a method of worship for me. + But... - We had a good discussion, but as I said, my time is up. I couldn't answer your last question. I hope I haven't done anything disrespectful; + It was a good conversation. - I hope I haven't. + It was a good conversation. As I've said... - It can get tense sometimes, but that's normal in any discussion. + I am ready to answer any question you search. Whenever you have a question, you want to research and question again, you can think about these 3 questions; as I've said the Creator's acting wisely, (by) sending a guide to the exhibition area, sending the light and as I've said, the existence of heaven and hell and to be able to speak of a Just Creator, His giving us certain rules, the existence of a book and a guide to enable us to distinguish between good and bad. As I've said, I want you to think about them all. We also talked about a verse in the Quran. We can talk about dozens of other verses, but you say you don't have time. - Unfortunately. + As I've said, I am ready to answer again whenever you want. - You kept me for a long time since you found me. I guess you find it difficult to find people here. + It's good that you came; we really had a hard time .... + It's good that you came; we really had a hard time .... - Don't mentione it. - It was my pleasure. + Pleased to meet you. - It was good; it was an experience for me. My first YouTube interview. + Okay, see you again. - See you again. + Take care of yourself.