Hinduism Or Islam: Facts that Hindus Never Knew! @smiletojannah
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Can you prove to a Hindu that it's more logical to believe in one God than in several Gods? So in your research about the Hindu text, how do they different from the Qur'an? But when you're saying that means it's true, okay, true now means bring your evidences. The Vedas actually don't talk about idol worship and this and that. So if the Hindus really want to see similarities, read the Vedas. They are the ones that you believe are divine. Assalamualaikum, Brother Zeeshan. Thank you for coming. Walaikumassalam. My pleasure. We see that there are many Christians reverting to Islam, or atheists. Alhamdulillah. But Hindus are not that well known for being interested in Islam.
What would be the three questions you would ask them to make them change their minds? So the first thing that I would ask them is, what's your concept of God? Is God all-powerful, all-seeing, all-hearing? And hopefully they will say yes. Because some of them believe that yes, God is one. However, then there's different kind of aspects of God, and there's different deities and murtis that we have, okay. Then secondly, I would say that, look, having a multiplicity of Gods where you've got people in different villages worshiping different Gods and different aspects, it's too confusing. How does a person know which God is the best God, and which God should be followed?
Or whichever God helps you, how do you know? Maybe one God has delayed in helping you. It's too confusing. And it's not befitting of a religion that's meant for the whole of mankind. Something that's meant for the whole of mankind should be accessible and should be easy. And I would say, there's nothing definite in Hinduism. Like, you could be somebody that doesn't believe in God. You could believe that there's one God. You can believe there's 6 Gods, 12 Gods, 1000 Gods. Something that lacks definitiveness cannot be from God. In terms of its fundamentals, that is. You know, one God, Allah. Last prophet, Muhammad (saw). One Qur'an, unchanged. It's very simple.
A 6 year old can understand, a plumber can understand, a homeless person can understand. A king can understand. Anyone can understand. Yeah, and that's the thing. Like, thirdly, I'll say, can you evidence and prove that the Vedas, the central text of Hinduism, can you show me manuscripts scientifically that can prove that they are the same and they are unchanged? You can't. After the Vedas, then you got the Upanishads and then you've got the Puranas and this and that. There's so many books and so many interpretations and so many different views. It's not befitting of God, yeah? God is simple in His Wahdaniyat, in His Oneness.
And they say, "Yeah, ultimately God is one." If God is one, why is there such a multiplicity? Why are you worshiping, and you know, why does Brahma got three heads? Why does Vishnu got four arms? Why is he blue? Why is he balancing stuff? There are certain things that just, even if you show it to a child, they become confused. And it's not as an insult, it's fitrah. It's against our nature, when you see somebody with four arms and you see someone with ten heads. Yeah, Ram fought Ravana who had ten heads. So they say, "Oh, the ten heads represents this or that." But he's got ten heads. That's what it comes down to at the end. It doesn't make sense. It's not logical.
They might say that this is belief. You don't need scientific proofs, this is belief. You got to believe with your heart. Don't question it. They might believe like this. What is your answer for this? There has to be a certain level of logic and reason with belief. Otherwise anyone can believe anything and society becomes chaotic. Somebody comes and says, "Oh, I believe that I can punch people in the face." No, there has to be something that has logical, reasonable backing. You can't have something... Ten heads, it's inconceivable. So belief doesn't mean that you say, "Oh no, no, forget about it." That's not a miracle. They're saying this is somebody who God fought against.
Yes, we'll have certain things where we say they are miracles, they are events that go against our human understanding. Yes, they are events. Not our whole belief is that this was a person, He was on Earth and people saw Him and... They can't simply say that they're both the same. So, also serving foods, you know, waking up Gods. It's also illogical, right? You're right. Waking the idol up, you know, giving it food, pouring milk on it. Believing that when God comes down as an avatar, they will take that sustenance. Why does God need sustenance? Oh, because He's on Earth. That's a weakness, then. If God is on Earth, He should still be God. So, when God comes on Earth, He loses His powers?
No, He wants to lose His powers. It's too contradictory. It leads to absurdities. Everything else follows the laws of nature on this planet. But the guy with ten heads, oh, they manage to stay straight. And even some pictures you see, he's on a bed. He's got ten pillows. I don't understand. It's inconceivable, a guy with four arms. Does that mean we're stronger than God, because we have two arms? Or God needs two more arms, because two aren't enough for him? You know, certain people will say, "No, no, no, just like you do, you worship the Kaaba. And, you know, we do the same." It's not the same. We don't. We don't pray to the Kaaba, we pray at the Kaaba to Allah.
And the Kaaba, in history, a portion of the Kaaba was destroyed. But the thing is, as it was being rebuilt, it didn't stop Muslims doing their worship. Do you see? So, the Kaaba for us, like, we don't worship the Kaaba. We can go inside the Kaaba. Are you telling me that you can do the same when it comes to an idol? You climb on top of the idol, or you cut the idol and you go inside the idol? Of course not. It's simply not the same. We don't say, "You have to press a bell, you have to do this." The most they will do is just change the cloth on the Kaaba. If you look underneath the Kaaba, it's just brick. That's all it is. We don't... It's not a specific shape or this or that.
If we were praying to it, it would be a certain shape. That's why we don't have pictures. We don't have any of this stuff, to protect us from idol worship. Old people might continue to believe these traditions. What about the young generation? Do they follow the religion of their father? Look, we are... Every era is different. There was an era of medicine, at the time of Isa (as). There was an era of magic, at the time of Musa (as). Now is an era of science. So now, people looking towards science. And that's why something that comes from God, no matter what criteria you use to measure it, it should still hold significance and hold its own. It's the same with the Qur'an.
Because it's timeless. The scientific verses, 1400 years ago, were relevant then. And even now, you use those same scientific verses. They're relevant to the science now as well. Because science changes. So Islam, the text of the Qur'an, won't give a definite answer. So, to answer the question, the kids today, they will use science. They will use, you know, logic and reasoning. And Hinduism falls short when it comes to this sort of stuff. Because it's undergone so many changes. And the text, there's no preservation of the text. There's no way of assuring that it's the same text. In fact, the Vedas could only be read by the Brahmins, the high caste people.
The low caste people couldn't even read the book. How does this make sense, that God has revealed a book which has no beginning and has no end, and then suddenly not everybody can read it? Well, surely people should. Everybody should have access to that book. And even today, more people are familiar with the Bhagavad Gita, the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, than they are with the Vedas. The Vedas actually don't talk about idol worship and this and that. So if the Hindus really want to see similarities, read the Vedas. They are the ones that you believe are divine. Read the Vedas and you will see there's no idol worship and few Gods. Then extra Gods start getting added in.
So this is definitely interpolation, people's desires. A believer of Hindu might say that, "When I believe this religion, I feel so peaceful. I feel that my desires are accepted. I want something and this happens. So I am being heard and I'm being answered. I'm being helped. So this is proof that my religion is correct." You're right, there are certain people that go with subjective nature. And subjective nature, that's exactly what it is. It's subjective. It's your own whims and your desires. You can't now equate that with truth. You can say, "Oh, personally," and this and that, but personally, there could be loads of variables. It could be...
Like, in Islam, we also believe that Allah looks after the non-Muslims as well. And if a person that doesn't believe in Allah, if they were to pray against a believer who's oppressed them, Allah will accept their dua as well. There's many such occasions that if you do good for a disbeliever, a person that, you know, won't believe, for them, Allah will give them good in this world. So, there's different explanations to why that good is happening. It doesn't necessarily equate to truth. When you're equating things happening to truth, that requires proof, that requires evidence. So when you're saying something different, and you're saying, "No, no, it's personal." Okay. No problem.
But when you're saying that means it's true, okay, true now means bring your evidences. So that statement requires evidence to back it up. When we think of Hinduism, we generally think of peaceful people who are practicing yoga or meditation. Is this faith really as peaceful and calm as it seems? Look, when it comes to... Somebody asked me this at Speakers Corner, and I said that one of the central texts of Hinduism is the Mahabharata. The whole book is about one story. It's about war. The whole book is war. It's about Arjuna versus Karna. These two, yeah, Arjuna versus Karna. They're from one family. And then Arjuna, who is being held up as the hero, He's being told by the God.
God comes down. Avatar of Vishnu comes down as Krishna. He's like "No, you must fight. To uphold the truth, you must fight." But the Pandavas, or the main family, they are the ones that... They are gambling their sisters. And how is this okay? You're gambling your family, and you lose your family in gambling. So even some Hindus today, they're looking at the logical nature of that and saying it doesn't really make sense. There's actually a presenter of, I think it was WION News. She was saying this as well. She was like the Pandavas, they gambled their sisters. How is this okay? Why are they celebrated? So, Mahabharata, it's about war. Ramayana, that's to do with war as well.
It's, again, the guy with ten heads. He is the grandson of Brahma, the God of creation. Brahma, the guy with ten heads prayed to Brahma, and said, "Give me protection against the Gods, against animals, against this and that." He accepted his prayer. And then the guy with ten heads, Ravana, he started causing corruptions. Then Brahma goes, "Oh no, why did I do this?" Then he goes to Vishnu and says, "He's causing issues now." Vishnu says, "Have no fear. I will go down as Ram, and I will fight him." And that's what they do. That's what they celebrate in Rama Navami, amongst other festivals. Ram destroying Ravana. But Ravana was the problem. And he was given the powers by God.
So again, it's just, when you say peaceful, what about King Ashok, killing thousands of people, butchering them? Celebrated amongst Hindus. There's the movie Ashoka as well, played by Shah Rukh Khan, yeah? So even Durga, who was created by the Gods, to come down and kill, had all the weapons. Ganesh, Elephant God. When he was a child, Ganesh, he had a human head and Shiva beheaded him. And then there was a war between the Gods. And then they got an elephant head and put it. And then the Gods were like, "Oh, we were so busy doing this.
Oh, the people of Earth, no one was accepting their prayers." Then they said, "We need a God that will, you know, answer the prayers." That's why Ganesh, you see the Elephant God in a lot of Hindu people's households or the likes. It's like a mythology. It's a mythology. The thing is, the Greeks, it's accepted that that's a mythology. But amongst Hindus, no, they read these books. They have festivals that... And they reenact these things. If it's mythologies, are you saying God didn't come down? "Oh, God did come down." So God was Ram? So Ram did come down. Who was he fighting? Ravana. He had ten heads. Did he have ten heads? He did. "No, no, but it's metaphor." So Ram didn't come down.
So that book is metaphorical as well. So, you can't have your cake and eat it. You have to pick one of the two. So in your research about the Hindu text, how do they different from the Qur'an? In many ways. I mean, if we just take preservation, the Qur'an has been preserved in three main ways. Number one, by live language. So Arabic is, like, top five languages spoken on the planet. Sanskrit, the language of the Vedas, is not a live language. On top of that now, when you look at memorization, another way that the Qur'an is preserved. The Qur'an is memorized from beginning to end by children as young as six. No one's memorized the Vedas that I've come across, yeah?
And no one claims that they've memorized the Vedas. And-or the Upanishads and the Mahabharata and the Bhagavad Gita. And thirdly, so we've got memorization, live language, and thirdly, manuscripts. The oldest manuscript of the Qur'an is in the University of Birmingham. Carbon dated by the University of Oxford. It's been dated to the time of compilation. We have that. It's dated to the time of compilation and it has 100% word accuracy. We have this evidence. It's in this country, not in Turkey, not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan, Pakistan. In this country, carbon dated by non-Muslims. But you can't say the same when it comes to the religious texts of the Hindus.
They say "No, it's been passed down verbally." But when things get passed down verbally, it's Chinese whispers. Interpretations can come in and additions can come in. They don't have chain of narration, isnad, that we do. We have a chain of narration where I can tell you, The Prophet (saw) said, "A person will be with whom he loves." We read this from Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal. Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal narrates from Muhammad ibn Abu Adi. He narrates from Humayd at-Tawil. He narrates from Anas ibn Malik. He narrates from Muhammad (saw). We know everybody in the chain. We know their name, family, tribe. We know where they were. We know if they were truthful. We know their reputation.
We know how much they learned. This sort of rigorous nature is not something that's present in Hinduism. In Hinduism, it's just, it's up to you. It's what you feel, it's, you know... It depends whatever God you want or whatever. What desires, you, yourself... This is not something that's befitting of God. This is not something that... They believe that there's Naraka, hellfire. And they believe that if you don't accept certain teachings, then Naraka is what awaits. Then why is it so confusing? It should be simple. It should be simple if it's for everybody. Can you prove to a Hindu that it's more logical to believe in one God than in several Gods?
There's a very simple argument put forward by the Qur'an. If there were multiple Gods, their wills would be contradictory. So, an example is, if there's a tree, one God wants it to be red, the other one wants it to be green. The other one wants it to be blue. What color will the tree be? You can't answer that question. Red, blue or green? All three of them have a difference of opinion. So if one of them, you take one of their opinions, that means the other two are weaker than that God. So, the mere fact that there is a multiplicity of Gods shows that one of them will be the first. Can't say, "Oh, this person got first," or "This person also got first." No, there's only one first.
Then you have second place, third place, fourth place. So if you say the end of the causal chain of dependencies is a necessary being. Necessary being is singular. It's one. There's only one necessary being. If there's multiple necessary beings, then they become contingent themselves. So necessity means that you are the end of that causal chain. Chain meaning one. So philosophically, their concept of a multiplicity doesn't necessarily make sense. And then saying that "God, no, no, there's a Indra, there's Brahma, there's Shiva, there's Vishnu." It doesn't make sense. Then they have to come down as human form, and then they're weak. Like, Krishna used to annoy girls.
And Ram, when he met Sita, he went up to her, started rubbing paint. In Holi, they put powder. Just, he didn't necessarily know her. Gone to a strange girl and starts touching her and rubbing her with colors. What is this? Like... And that's why, I don't want to draw a link, but that's what we see in Holi, when it happens. People go to random women and start touching them up. Many foreigners have complained in India they are being fondled. They are being sexually harassed. So this doesn't make sense. It sounds nice. It's cultural, mythological or whatnot. But when it comes to practical daily life, Islam is the one. It tells you things to the minutest detail.
How to go to the toilet, what sound not to give. Don't even say "Oof" to your parents. That's the level of detail that it goes to. A truthful and trustworthy trader will be raised with the Nabiyeen, with the Prophet, Seddiqin, the truthful and the Shuhada, the Prophets. Just somebody with a shop. Somebody with a shop. So, Islam is comprehensive. No matter where you go, Islam will help you to become the best version of yourself. But they are, no one ever comes to you... And their Gods, any of their stories, they've had to spend years in meditation. And in a stressed position, standing up on one leg. And he's praying to Shiva for years. Or to Brahma. What is this?
Like, is this worship, standing on one leg? Worship is supposed to be something everybody is able to do. Like, whether you're old, whether you're young, you can pray Salah. Standing, sitting, lying down. It caters for everybody. I really wonder, I've heard these terms in the Western culture, really. This is karma, this is, you know, guru, other stuff. Why do they seek this truth, this guidance in the eastern lands, in India? Why the people in the West are so, you know, interested in this? Because in India, when it comes to like, gurus and stuff like this, it's less stringent than, say, Islam. Less disciplined than, say, Islam. You'll just go there, you meditate, you do whatever with women.
You, you know, do whatever you want. There's no kind of, this is haram, this is halal, you can't do this, there's this, there's that. You have to do this, you have to do that. Islam is more disciplined. It's more on point. It goes against one's desires. It trains you successible to people. But when it comes to Hinduism, Hinduism is something that has been promoted in Western culture as well. In movies, like Chinese films, where they go and there's a wise guy with a beard. Or the Hindu yogis. Street Fighter, you've got, you know, Yoga Fire, Yoga Flame, Dhalsim. So they've had that.
But when it comes to Muslims, we've been getting negative press here, and that's why people are a bit more apprehensive. It's been seen as, like, an Arab religion, seen as very aggressive, chopping hands off and this and that. So that's why it puts people off. But when people are a bit more open to it, when they have Muslim friends, then we can see that, Subhanallah, then they... Then it's inevitable that they come to Islam. If millions of Hindus in the world were listening to you right now for 1 or 2 minutes, what would you like to say to them?
First, start off with our logical understanding that if there is an all-powerful being, all-powerful, all-knowing, all-seeing, would that all-powerful being need to come down? Need to have avatars and different forms and murtis and this and that? Or would that independent being just send His vicegerents, His khalifas, His representatives with a simple book that is simple to understand and accessible to everybody? And I would say, listen to this talk. Listen to our discussion. And Inshallah, God willing, what you do is raise your hand and you say, "God, whoever you are, wherever you are, guide me. Guide me and help me." And look, and read the Qur'an.
And Inshallah, God willing, as long as you are sincere, you know Islam is waiting.
What would be the three questions you would ask them to make them change their minds? So the first thing that I would ask them is, what's your concept of God? Is God all-powerful, all-seeing, all-hearing? And hopefully they will say yes. Because some of them believe that yes, God is one. However, then there's different kind of aspects of God, and there's different deities and murtis that we have, okay. Then secondly, I would say that, look, having a multiplicity of Gods where you've got people in different villages worshiping different Gods and different aspects, it's too confusing. How does a person know which God is the best God, and which God should be followed?
Or whichever God helps you, how do you know? Maybe one God has delayed in helping you. It's too confusing. And it's not befitting of a religion that's meant for the whole of mankind. Something that's meant for the whole of mankind should be accessible and should be easy. And I would say, there's nothing definite in Hinduism. Like, you could be somebody that doesn't believe in God. You could believe that there's one God. You can believe there's 6 Gods, 12 Gods, 1000 Gods. Something that lacks definitiveness cannot be from God. In terms of its fundamentals, that is. You know, one God, Allah. Last prophet, Muhammad (saw). One Qur'an, unchanged. It's very simple.
A 6 year old can understand, a plumber can understand, a homeless person can understand. A king can understand. Anyone can understand. Yeah, and that's the thing. Like, thirdly, I'll say, can you evidence and prove that the Vedas, the central text of Hinduism, can you show me manuscripts scientifically that can prove that they are the same and they are unchanged? You can't. After the Vedas, then you got the Upanishads and then you've got the Puranas and this and that. There's so many books and so many interpretations and so many different views. It's not befitting of God, yeah? God is simple in His Wahdaniyat, in His Oneness.
And they say, "Yeah, ultimately God is one." If God is one, why is there such a multiplicity? Why are you worshiping, and you know, why does Brahma got three heads? Why does Vishnu got four arms? Why is he blue? Why is he balancing stuff? There are certain things that just, even if you show it to a child, they become confused. And it's not as an insult, it's fitrah. It's against our nature, when you see somebody with four arms and you see someone with ten heads. Yeah, Ram fought Ravana who had ten heads. So they say, "Oh, the ten heads represents this or that." But he's got ten heads. That's what it comes down to at the end. It doesn't make sense. It's not logical.
They might say that this is belief. You don't need scientific proofs, this is belief. You got to believe with your heart. Don't question it. They might believe like this. What is your answer for this? There has to be a certain level of logic and reason with belief. Otherwise anyone can believe anything and society becomes chaotic. Somebody comes and says, "Oh, I believe that I can punch people in the face." No, there has to be something that has logical, reasonable backing. You can't have something... Ten heads, it's inconceivable. So belief doesn't mean that you say, "Oh no, no, forget about it." That's not a miracle. They're saying this is somebody who God fought against.
Yes, we'll have certain things where we say they are miracles, they are events that go against our human understanding. Yes, they are events. Not our whole belief is that this was a person, He was on Earth and people saw Him and... They can't simply say that they're both the same. So, also serving foods, you know, waking up Gods. It's also illogical, right? You're right. Waking the idol up, you know, giving it food, pouring milk on it. Believing that when God comes down as an avatar, they will take that sustenance. Why does God need sustenance? Oh, because He's on Earth. That's a weakness, then. If God is on Earth, He should still be God. So, when God comes on Earth, He loses His powers?
No, He wants to lose His powers. It's too contradictory. It leads to absurdities. Everything else follows the laws of nature on this planet. But the guy with ten heads, oh, they manage to stay straight. And even some pictures you see, he's on a bed. He's got ten pillows. I don't understand. It's inconceivable, a guy with four arms. Does that mean we're stronger than God, because we have two arms? Or God needs two more arms, because two aren't enough for him? You know, certain people will say, "No, no, no, just like you do, you worship the Kaaba. And, you know, we do the same." It's not the same. We don't. We don't pray to the Kaaba, we pray at the Kaaba to Allah.
And the Kaaba, in history, a portion of the Kaaba was destroyed. But the thing is, as it was being rebuilt, it didn't stop Muslims doing their worship. Do you see? So, the Kaaba for us, like, we don't worship the Kaaba. We can go inside the Kaaba. Are you telling me that you can do the same when it comes to an idol? You climb on top of the idol, or you cut the idol and you go inside the idol? Of course not. It's simply not the same. We don't say, "You have to press a bell, you have to do this." The most they will do is just change the cloth on the Kaaba. If you look underneath the Kaaba, it's just brick. That's all it is. We don't... It's not a specific shape or this or that.
If we were praying to it, it would be a certain shape. That's why we don't have pictures. We don't have any of this stuff, to protect us from idol worship. Old people might continue to believe these traditions. What about the young generation? Do they follow the religion of their father? Look, we are... Every era is different. There was an era of medicine, at the time of Isa (as). There was an era of magic, at the time of Musa (as). Now is an era of science. So now, people looking towards science. And that's why something that comes from God, no matter what criteria you use to measure it, it should still hold significance and hold its own. It's the same with the Qur'an.
Because it's timeless. The scientific verses, 1400 years ago, were relevant then. And even now, you use those same scientific verses. They're relevant to the science now as well. Because science changes. So Islam, the text of the Qur'an, won't give a definite answer. So, to answer the question, the kids today, they will use science. They will use, you know, logic and reasoning. And Hinduism falls short when it comes to this sort of stuff. Because it's undergone so many changes. And the text, there's no preservation of the text. There's no way of assuring that it's the same text. In fact, the Vedas could only be read by the Brahmins, the high caste people.
The low caste people couldn't even read the book. How does this make sense, that God has revealed a book which has no beginning and has no end, and then suddenly not everybody can read it? Well, surely people should. Everybody should have access to that book. And even today, more people are familiar with the Bhagavad Gita, the Mahabharata, the Ramayana, than they are with the Vedas. The Vedas actually don't talk about idol worship and this and that. So if the Hindus really want to see similarities, read the Vedas. They are the ones that you believe are divine. Read the Vedas and you will see there's no idol worship and few Gods. Then extra Gods start getting added in.
So this is definitely interpolation, people's desires. A believer of Hindu might say that, "When I believe this religion, I feel so peaceful. I feel that my desires are accepted. I want something and this happens. So I am being heard and I'm being answered. I'm being helped. So this is proof that my religion is correct." You're right, there are certain people that go with subjective nature. And subjective nature, that's exactly what it is. It's subjective. It's your own whims and your desires. You can't now equate that with truth. You can say, "Oh, personally," and this and that, but personally, there could be loads of variables. It could be...
Like, in Islam, we also believe that Allah looks after the non-Muslims as well. And if a person that doesn't believe in Allah, if they were to pray against a believer who's oppressed them, Allah will accept their dua as well. There's many such occasions that if you do good for a disbeliever, a person that, you know, won't believe, for them, Allah will give them good in this world. So, there's different explanations to why that good is happening. It doesn't necessarily equate to truth. When you're equating things happening to truth, that requires proof, that requires evidence. So when you're saying something different, and you're saying, "No, no, it's personal." Okay. No problem.
But when you're saying that means it's true, okay, true now means bring your evidences. So that statement requires evidence to back it up. When we think of Hinduism, we generally think of peaceful people who are practicing yoga or meditation. Is this faith really as peaceful and calm as it seems? Look, when it comes to... Somebody asked me this at Speakers Corner, and I said that one of the central texts of Hinduism is the Mahabharata. The whole book is about one story. It's about war. The whole book is war. It's about Arjuna versus Karna. These two, yeah, Arjuna versus Karna. They're from one family. And then Arjuna, who is being held up as the hero, He's being told by the God.
God comes down. Avatar of Vishnu comes down as Krishna. He's like "No, you must fight. To uphold the truth, you must fight." But the Pandavas, or the main family, they are the ones that... They are gambling their sisters. And how is this okay? You're gambling your family, and you lose your family in gambling. So even some Hindus today, they're looking at the logical nature of that and saying it doesn't really make sense. There's actually a presenter of, I think it was WION News. She was saying this as well. She was like the Pandavas, they gambled their sisters. How is this okay? Why are they celebrated? So, Mahabharata, it's about war. Ramayana, that's to do with war as well.
It's, again, the guy with ten heads. He is the grandson of Brahma, the God of creation. Brahma, the guy with ten heads prayed to Brahma, and said, "Give me protection against the Gods, against animals, against this and that." He accepted his prayer. And then the guy with ten heads, Ravana, he started causing corruptions. Then Brahma goes, "Oh no, why did I do this?" Then he goes to Vishnu and says, "He's causing issues now." Vishnu says, "Have no fear. I will go down as Ram, and I will fight him." And that's what they do. That's what they celebrate in Rama Navami, amongst other festivals. Ram destroying Ravana. But Ravana was the problem. And he was given the powers by God.
So again, it's just, when you say peaceful, what about King Ashok, killing thousands of people, butchering them? Celebrated amongst Hindus. There's the movie Ashoka as well, played by Shah Rukh Khan, yeah? So even Durga, who was created by the Gods, to come down and kill, had all the weapons. Ganesh, Elephant God. When he was a child, Ganesh, he had a human head and Shiva beheaded him. And then there was a war between the Gods. And then they got an elephant head and put it. And then the Gods were like, "Oh, we were so busy doing this.
Oh, the people of Earth, no one was accepting their prayers." Then they said, "We need a God that will, you know, answer the prayers." That's why Ganesh, you see the Elephant God in a lot of Hindu people's households or the likes. It's like a mythology. It's a mythology. The thing is, the Greeks, it's accepted that that's a mythology. But amongst Hindus, no, they read these books. They have festivals that... And they reenact these things. If it's mythologies, are you saying God didn't come down? "Oh, God did come down." So God was Ram? So Ram did come down. Who was he fighting? Ravana. He had ten heads. Did he have ten heads? He did. "No, no, but it's metaphor." So Ram didn't come down.
So that book is metaphorical as well. So, you can't have your cake and eat it. You have to pick one of the two. So in your research about the Hindu text, how do they different from the Qur'an? In many ways. I mean, if we just take preservation, the Qur'an has been preserved in three main ways. Number one, by live language. So Arabic is, like, top five languages spoken on the planet. Sanskrit, the language of the Vedas, is not a live language. On top of that now, when you look at memorization, another way that the Qur'an is preserved. The Qur'an is memorized from beginning to end by children as young as six. No one's memorized the Vedas that I've come across, yeah?
And no one claims that they've memorized the Vedas. And-or the Upanishads and the Mahabharata and the Bhagavad Gita. And thirdly, so we've got memorization, live language, and thirdly, manuscripts. The oldest manuscript of the Qur'an is in the University of Birmingham. Carbon dated by the University of Oxford. It's been dated to the time of compilation. We have that. It's dated to the time of compilation and it has 100% word accuracy. We have this evidence. It's in this country, not in Turkey, not in Iraq, not in Afghanistan, Pakistan. In this country, carbon dated by non-Muslims. But you can't say the same when it comes to the religious texts of the Hindus.
They say "No, it's been passed down verbally." But when things get passed down verbally, it's Chinese whispers. Interpretations can come in and additions can come in. They don't have chain of narration, isnad, that we do. We have a chain of narration where I can tell you, The Prophet (saw) said, "A person will be with whom he loves." We read this from Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal. Imam Ahmad bin Hanbal narrates from Muhammad ibn Abu Adi. He narrates from Humayd at-Tawil. He narrates from Anas ibn Malik. He narrates from Muhammad (saw). We know everybody in the chain. We know their name, family, tribe. We know where they were. We know if they were truthful. We know their reputation.
We know how much they learned. This sort of rigorous nature is not something that's present in Hinduism. In Hinduism, it's just, it's up to you. It's what you feel, it's, you know... It depends whatever God you want or whatever. What desires, you, yourself... This is not something that's befitting of God. This is not something that... They believe that there's Naraka, hellfire. And they believe that if you don't accept certain teachings, then Naraka is what awaits. Then why is it so confusing? It should be simple. It should be simple if it's for everybody. Can you prove to a Hindu that it's more logical to believe in one God than in several Gods?
There's a very simple argument put forward by the Qur'an. If there were multiple Gods, their wills would be contradictory. So, an example is, if there's a tree, one God wants it to be red, the other one wants it to be green. The other one wants it to be blue. What color will the tree be? You can't answer that question. Red, blue or green? All three of them have a difference of opinion. So if one of them, you take one of their opinions, that means the other two are weaker than that God. So, the mere fact that there is a multiplicity of Gods shows that one of them will be the first. Can't say, "Oh, this person got first," or "This person also got first." No, there's only one first.
Then you have second place, third place, fourth place. So if you say the end of the causal chain of dependencies is a necessary being. Necessary being is singular. It's one. There's only one necessary being. If there's multiple necessary beings, then they become contingent themselves. So necessity means that you are the end of that causal chain. Chain meaning one. So philosophically, their concept of a multiplicity doesn't necessarily make sense. And then saying that "God, no, no, there's a Indra, there's Brahma, there's Shiva, there's Vishnu." It doesn't make sense. Then they have to come down as human form, and then they're weak. Like, Krishna used to annoy girls.
And Ram, when he met Sita, he went up to her, started rubbing paint. In Holi, they put powder. Just, he didn't necessarily know her. Gone to a strange girl and starts touching her and rubbing her with colors. What is this? Like... And that's why, I don't want to draw a link, but that's what we see in Holi, when it happens. People go to random women and start touching them up. Many foreigners have complained in India they are being fondled. They are being sexually harassed. So this doesn't make sense. It sounds nice. It's cultural, mythological or whatnot. But when it comes to practical daily life, Islam is the one. It tells you things to the minutest detail.
How to go to the toilet, what sound not to give. Don't even say "Oof" to your parents. That's the level of detail that it goes to. A truthful and trustworthy trader will be raised with the Nabiyeen, with the Prophet, Seddiqin, the truthful and the Shuhada, the Prophets. Just somebody with a shop. Somebody with a shop. So, Islam is comprehensive. No matter where you go, Islam will help you to become the best version of yourself. But they are, no one ever comes to you... And their Gods, any of their stories, they've had to spend years in meditation. And in a stressed position, standing up on one leg. And he's praying to Shiva for years. Or to Brahma. What is this?
Like, is this worship, standing on one leg? Worship is supposed to be something everybody is able to do. Like, whether you're old, whether you're young, you can pray Salah. Standing, sitting, lying down. It caters for everybody. I really wonder, I've heard these terms in the Western culture, really. This is karma, this is, you know, guru, other stuff. Why do they seek this truth, this guidance in the eastern lands, in India? Why the people in the West are so, you know, interested in this? Because in India, when it comes to like, gurus and stuff like this, it's less stringent than, say, Islam. Less disciplined than, say, Islam. You'll just go there, you meditate, you do whatever with women.
You, you know, do whatever you want. There's no kind of, this is haram, this is halal, you can't do this, there's this, there's that. You have to do this, you have to do that. Islam is more disciplined. It's more on point. It goes against one's desires. It trains you successible to people. But when it comes to Hinduism, Hinduism is something that has been promoted in Western culture as well. In movies, like Chinese films, where they go and there's a wise guy with a beard. Or the Hindu yogis. Street Fighter, you've got, you know, Yoga Fire, Yoga Flame, Dhalsim. So they've had that.
But when it comes to Muslims, we've been getting negative press here, and that's why people are a bit more apprehensive. It's been seen as, like, an Arab religion, seen as very aggressive, chopping hands off and this and that. So that's why it puts people off. But when people are a bit more open to it, when they have Muslim friends, then we can see that, Subhanallah, then they... Then it's inevitable that they come to Islam. If millions of Hindus in the world were listening to you right now for 1 or 2 minutes, what would you like to say to them?
First, start off with our logical understanding that if there is an all-powerful being, all-powerful, all-knowing, all-seeing, would that all-powerful being need to come down? Need to have avatars and different forms and murtis and this and that? Or would that independent being just send His vicegerents, His khalifas, His representatives with a simple book that is simple to understand and accessible to everybody? And I would say, listen to this talk. Listen to our discussion. And Inshallah, God willing, what you do is raise your hand and you say, "God, whoever you are, wherever you are, guide me. Guide me and help me." And look, and read the Qur'an.
And Inshallah, God willing, as long as you are sincere, you know Islam is waiting.