Unbeliever University Student Became Muslim - Street interview
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- I consider myself an agnostic. - It's been a question I've been asking myself for the past 2-3 years… - It’s not possible to know if there’s a creator. + Shouldn’t there be an artist behind the creation of humans? - I don’t think so. - If there is, why Islam? + Why is iron mentioned in a book written 1430 years ago. - They researched the creation of iron. - Then it becomes logical. +What do you do? +You seem like you got out of school. -Yes, I left to purchase tickets, I’m returning now. +What do you study? -I'm in my first year studying geometry engineering. + Nice bro. +I want to ask; what’s your faith? -I say I’m agnostic when asked.
+And how long have you been calling yourself an agnostic? -For the past 2-3 years. +Were you unsure. +Whether or not a creator existed 3 years ago? -I don’t think we can know, it’s not possible for us as humans to know if there’s a creator. +You felt that 3 years ago. +Then you leant towards the unknown… Were you a Muslim? -Like many, from birth. +When information comes doubt disappears, right? +Then agnosticism should end when we find the truth. +For example, if I ask, "How many people are on this street?" +We can’t know. -We can’t know… +We can claim not to know until we count everyone… +Can we still say there is any doubt after counting everyone? -Doubt disappears.
+Exactly, where there is information, a decision can be made. +You will either decide on one thing or the other. +If we provide proof of the existence of a creator +Would you change your mind after we state the facts? + If I convince you? - Why would I refuse? +It’s not beneficial +Newton had a nice saying; and he has accepted as the father of science. +He said: "A creator can be found with his creations." + Bediüzzaman Said Nursi, an important scholar of recent times, says: +"A finely fashioned work of art necessitates the artist" +With the same logic let’s infer. +For example; Humans have both a "Physical eye" and a "Mind's eye." +What’s the "Mind's eye"?
+When the physical eye examines without the mind, it uses vision. +But, the mind's eye? +It uses what the eye sees and decides. +Say when you look at the sun... +Do you think its large or small? -It appears to be small. +But, when the mind's eye takes over. -We understand how big it is through knowledge. + The knowledge that the object appears smaller as the distance between observer and object increases. +And you say it is big. +So, the eye made a mistake, but the mind eye didn’t. +For example, have you heard of the Mona Lisa painting? -Yes. +It’s extravagant isn’t it? It’s very famous, what do you know about it?
-It can be interpreted differently; how it's understood changes from person to person. +Day by day new information is discovered about it. +Many different tones of colour were used by Da Vinci. +People can’t even find the transition between colours. +They don’t know the colours. + We can see a very nice blend. +Leonardo Da Vinci spent 4 years perfecting this work. +People say that it’s priceless. +Did you ever examine the emotions Mona Lisa shows in the painting? -It’s hard to tell whether she is happy or sad. +Suppose you enter a workshop and there’s the Mona Lisa painting. +It’s in front of you. +And there’s no-one else around.
+Your eye interprets it as; nobody’s here so this appeared on its own. +You see that there is paint on the walls the same as the paint on the painting. +My eye tells me that there may have been a wind that spread the paint around, and the painting just appeared. -This sounds like Deism. +It would be illogical, right? +But, what does your mind's eye say? - Who created this painting? +Exactly, if there’s a painting with such fine detail, if there is order there must be wisdom. +Then there must be someone with wisdom. +Now, I want to ask you that. +Is Mona Lisa more artful or Leonardo Da Vinci? -We can say that Da Vinci is more excellent. +Surely, he is more artful than what he made?
+You know the human body? +In a human body there are close to 60 elements. +The arrangement of elements is very sensitive. +If there's even a slight change; diseases appear, right? -True. +There are lots of elements in the body, like iron and copper. +With a decrease in copper there would be health problems. +Because, copper provides balance to the blood. +Then I’ll say that elements were combined precisely and the amazing human body was created, right? -Yes, a work of art appeared. -But, if a creator exists… +Let me finish then you can link it. +Let me just ask you something then hand over the microphone. +We agreed that there’s no chance for the Mona Lisa to appear on its own.
+If a human body which is even more artful with over 60 elements balanced so precisely, how could humans appear by coincidence? +Is there a chance that a creator doesn’t exist? +We've said Mona Lisa must’ve been drawn by an artist. +Then is there any chance of Leonardo da Vinci not having an artist create him? -I think so. -Leonardo Da Vinci might have a creator, but we can’t be certain of that. +But, we can be certain about what can and can’t happen. +Like we said "What if the wind spilling paint created the Mona Lisa?" -It couldn’t. +Then someone did create the human. +Let’s say x created it for example. +X or y. +But, I can find the characteristics of this creator. +1.
They must have wisdom. +If Mona Lisa can’t be drawn without wisdom, then how can a human be created without it. +In fact, it’s not one human there are millions of humans. +There are millions of masterpieces. +Then can we say He is knowledgeable? Whoever He is. -If there’s a creator, we can say He is knowledgeable. +Can the adjective be left without a noun? +For example, I said “very clever." +It got ignored. +You should ask "Who’s clever?" +If I say someone’s clever. +I gave the attribute to someone, right? +We don’t leave this unanswered. +If we accept there’s ‘someone’ clever. +Then we accepted the creator automatically. +Wouldn’t it be automatic? +Yes, it would.
+What other characteristics can we look at? +If the creator isn’t alive, could life be created? -No. +We will then need to say, + Most important 1. Life +2. Wisdom, if He is so artful +3. Will +What is will? +Having a choice, right? +Choosing whether to create or not. +Then I can see that he has will. +4) Power +What is power? -Might, Strength. +Yes. +Say, can a paralysed person reveal that art? - It would be difficult. + If he can’t move, he can’t create. +Then, I will say that he has power, life, will, and wisdom. +Could we find the characteristics of the Creator we called ‘X’? -Right. +Then we will say. +There is someone. +Whether we call Him X or Y.
-Let’s just accept the existence of someone. -If someone exists then, why Islam? +Then let’s look at that. +Let’s look at an example. +If you open an exhibition. +There must be a guide to give info. +About the antiques. +Because logic, wisdom and knowledge require this. +That's what makes sense. +We can say, the creator opened a huge exhibition, the universe. +The question arises +"If you put a guide even in a small place the creator of a huge exhibition, would it make sense if He didn’t send a guide?" -No, it wouldn’t. +Let's then say. +Yes, a prophet has come. +The last prophet came. +What did the last prophet bring? +The Qur’an, right? +Then let me tell you that.
+If I prove that the Qur’an can’t be written by a human or that the Qur’an can only be sent by revelation, wouldn’t I therefore prove Islam? -You would. +Then let me give this example bro. +There is a surah called al-Hadid in the Qur’an. +Have you heard of it before? +Hadid means iron in Arabic. +In surah al-Hadid there is a part that says: + وَاَنْزَلْنَا الْحَدٖيدَ +"We sent down iron from the sky." +The word ‘Nezele’ comes from the word ‘Nuzül.’ +’Nuzül’ means ‘being brought down’. +It’s also mentioned in different areas; you can look at rain being brought down or the holy books being brought down. +Like that the phrase of ‘being brought down’ is used for iron.
+Then there’s a point that attracts our attention. +Why is iron described as coming down from the sky in the Qur’an, which was sent 1430 years ago? -They searched for an answer for how iron appeared. +But, normally iron is mined from earth. +The Ayah says ‘we sent it down from the sky’ +Scientists are just discovering that the iron came from the sky because there’s no heat in world and the solar system to create iron. +With the explosion that happened between nova and supernova. +The element of iron came down as a meteor. +I now clearly know that iron came from the sky, and this is confirmed by science.
+Then I should ask, how could the information about iron coming down from the sky be found in a book that’s so old? +What are the chances that a human has this knowledge? +Is there any chance? +We are just discovering this in this century. +Then there’s no chance a human wrote it. +I see that this is the Prophet I seek, and that the holy book I seek is the Qur’an. +Let me give you one more example brother. +Surah Adh-Dhariyat ayah 47. +In this Surah there’s a phrase: +It says: +وَالسَّمَٓاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِاَيْدٍ وَاِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ +"We've built the sky and We're expanding it." +Ayah is so different right? -Yes, it’s expanding. +Yes, but when did we learn this? -I don’t know, when?
+In 1929, Edwin Hubble was an astronomer who used telescopes to discover that the stars are opening and the universe is expanding. +Until 1929, the science world accepted the universe as stable. +Hold on, it’s 1430 years ago when no such technology like telescopes existed. +Is there a chance a human might know this? +We have just discovered it +Even the scientific world didn’t know until 1929. +Could someone have known these things all that time ago, or was the knowledge sent by a creator? -With these examples we can see that a creator sent this knowledge. +Yes, we can see that a human can’t write this. +I only gave you 2 examples. +I can count 10 more here.
+Many pieces of ecvidence that remove the possibility of a human writing the Qur'an like the expandsion of the universe and sending down of the iron… +All of this information, being in this book; doesn’t it show that there’s a creator, and that He sent this book as a guide? -That would be logical. +Is there anything else? -I don’t have any questions. +What are you thinking? +Will you come? -I’ll come but, I hope I won’t leave. +There’s no getting out - don’t think that. +That’s a delusion from the devil. +If you have any questions, they all have answers. +Do you remember how to accept İslam again? -"There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His Messenger."
+And how long have you been calling yourself an agnostic? -For the past 2-3 years. +Were you unsure. +Whether or not a creator existed 3 years ago? -I don’t think we can know, it’s not possible for us as humans to know if there’s a creator. +You felt that 3 years ago. +Then you leant towards the unknown… Were you a Muslim? -Like many, from birth. +When information comes doubt disappears, right? +Then agnosticism should end when we find the truth. +For example, if I ask, "How many people are on this street?" +We can’t know. -We can’t know… +We can claim not to know until we count everyone… +Can we still say there is any doubt after counting everyone? -Doubt disappears.
+Exactly, where there is information, a decision can be made. +You will either decide on one thing or the other. +If we provide proof of the existence of a creator +Would you change your mind after we state the facts? + If I convince you? - Why would I refuse? +It’s not beneficial +Newton had a nice saying; and he has accepted as the father of science. +He said: "A creator can be found with his creations." + Bediüzzaman Said Nursi, an important scholar of recent times, says: +"A finely fashioned work of art necessitates the artist" +With the same logic let’s infer. +For example; Humans have both a "Physical eye" and a "Mind's eye." +What’s the "Mind's eye"?
+When the physical eye examines without the mind, it uses vision. +But, the mind's eye? +It uses what the eye sees and decides. +Say when you look at the sun... +Do you think its large or small? -It appears to be small. +But, when the mind's eye takes over. -We understand how big it is through knowledge. + The knowledge that the object appears smaller as the distance between observer and object increases. +And you say it is big. +So, the eye made a mistake, but the mind eye didn’t. +For example, have you heard of the Mona Lisa painting? -Yes. +It’s extravagant isn’t it? It’s very famous, what do you know about it?
-It can be interpreted differently; how it's understood changes from person to person. +Day by day new information is discovered about it. +Many different tones of colour were used by Da Vinci. +People can’t even find the transition between colours. +They don’t know the colours. + We can see a very nice blend. +Leonardo Da Vinci spent 4 years perfecting this work. +People say that it’s priceless. +Did you ever examine the emotions Mona Lisa shows in the painting? -It’s hard to tell whether she is happy or sad. +Suppose you enter a workshop and there’s the Mona Lisa painting. +It’s in front of you. +And there’s no-one else around.
+Your eye interprets it as; nobody’s here so this appeared on its own. +You see that there is paint on the walls the same as the paint on the painting. +My eye tells me that there may have been a wind that spread the paint around, and the painting just appeared. -This sounds like Deism. +It would be illogical, right? +But, what does your mind's eye say? - Who created this painting? +Exactly, if there’s a painting with such fine detail, if there is order there must be wisdom. +Then there must be someone with wisdom. +Now, I want to ask you that. +Is Mona Lisa more artful or Leonardo Da Vinci? -We can say that Da Vinci is more excellent. +Surely, he is more artful than what he made?
+You know the human body? +In a human body there are close to 60 elements. +The arrangement of elements is very sensitive. +If there's even a slight change; diseases appear, right? -True. +There are lots of elements in the body, like iron and copper. +With a decrease in copper there would be health problems. +Because, copper provides balance to the blood. +Then I’ll say that elements were combined precisely and the amazing human body was created, right? -Yes, a work of art appeared. -But, if a creator exists… +Let me finish then you can link it. +Let me just ask you something then hand over the microphone. +We agreed that there’s no chance for the Mona Lisa to appear on its own.
+If a human body which is even more artful with over 60 elements balanced so precisely, how could humans appear by coincidence? +Is there a chance that a creator doesn’t exist? +We've said Mona Lisa must’ve been drawn by an artist. +Then is there any chance of Leonardo da Vinci not having an artist create him? -I think so. -Leonardo Da Vinci might have a creator, but we can’t be certain of that. +But, we can be certain about what can and can’t happen. +Like we said "What if the wind spilling paint created the Mona Lisa?" -It couldn’t. +Then someone did create the human. +Let’s say x created it for example. +X or y. +But, I can find the characteristics of this creator. +1.
They must have wisdom. +If Mona Lisa can’t be drawn without wisdom, then how can a human be created without it. +In fact, it’s not one human there are millions of humans. +There are millions of masterpieces. +Then can we say He is knowledgeable? Whoever He is. -If there’s a creator, we can say He is knowledgeable. +Can the adjective be left without a noun? +For example, I said “very clever." +It got ignored. +You should ask "Who’s clever?" +If I say someone’s clever. +I gave the attribute to someone, right? +We don’t leave this unanswered. +If we accept there’s ‘someone’ clever. +Then we accepted the creator automatically. +Wouldn’t it be automatic? +Yes, it would.
+What other characteristics can we look at? +If the creator isn’t alive, could life be created? -No. +We will then need to say, + Most important 1. Life +2. Wisdom, if He is so artful +3. Will +What is will? +Having a choice, right? +Choosing whether to create or not. +Then I can see that he has will. +4) Power +What is power? -Might, Strength. +Yes. +Say, can a paralysed person reveal that art? - It would be difficult. + If he can’t move, he can’t create. +Then, I will say that he has power, life, will, and wisdom. +Could we find the characteristics of the Creator we called ‘X’? -Right. +Then we will say. +There is someone. +Whether we call Him X or Y.
-Let’s just accept the existence of someone. -If someone exists then, why Islam? +Then let’s look at that. +Let’s look at an example. +If you open an exhibition. +There must be a guide to give info. +About the antiques. +Because logic, wisdom and knowledge require this. +That's what makes sense. +We can say, the creator opened a huge exhibition, the universe. +The question arises +"If you put a guide even in a small place the creator of a huge exhibition, would it make sense if He didn’t send a guide?" -No, it wouldn’t. +Let's then say. +Yes, a prophet has come. +The last prophet came. +What did the last prophet bring? +The Qur’an, right? +Then let me tell you that.
+If I prove that the Qur’an can’t be written by a human or that the Qur’an can only be sent by revelation, wouldn’t I therefore prove Islam? -You would. +Then let me give this example bro. +There is a surah called al-Hadid in the Qur’an. +Have you heard of it before? +Hadid means iron in Arabic. +In surah al-Hadid there is a part that says: + وَاَنْزَلْنَا الْحَدٖيدَ +"We sent down iron from the sky." +The word ‘Nezele’ comes from the word ‘Nuzül.’ +’Nuzül’ means ‘being brought down’. +It’s also mentioned in different areas; you can look at rain being brought down or the holy books being brought down. +Like that the phrase of ‘being brought down’ is used for iron.
+Then there’s a point that attracts our attention. +Why is iron described as coming down from the sky in the Qur’an, which was sent 1430 years ago? -They searched for an answer for how iron appeared. +But, normally iron is mined from earth. +The Ayah says ‘we sent it down from the sky’ +Scientists are just discovering that the iron came from the sky because there’s no heat in world and the solar system to create iron. +With the explosion that happened between nova and supernova. +The element of iron came down as a meteor. +I now clearly know that iron came from the sky, and this is confirmed by science.
+Then I should ask, how could the information about iron coming down from the sky be found in a book that’s so old? +What are the chances that a human has this knowledge? +Is there any chance? +We are just discovering this in this century. +Then there’s no chance a human wrote it. +I see that this is the Prophet I seek, and that the holy book I seek is the Qur’an. +Let me give you one more example brother. +Surah Adh-Dhariyat ayah 47. +In this Surah there’s a phrase: +It says: +وَالسَّمَٓاءَ بَنَيْنَاهَا بِاَيْدٍ وَاِنَّا لَمُوسِعُونَ +"We've built the sky and We're expanding it." +Ayah is so different right? -Yes, it’s expanding. +Yes, but when did we learn this? -I don’t know, when?
+In 1929, Edwin Hubble was an astronomer who used telescopes to discover that the stars are opening and the universe is expanding. +Until 1929, the science world accepted the universe as stable. +Hold on, it’s 1430 years ago when no such technology like telescopes existed. +Is there a chance a human might know this? +We have just discovered it +Even the scientific world didn’t know until 1929. +Could someone have known these things all that time ago, or was the knowledge sent by a creator? -With these examples we can see that a creator sent this knowledge. +Yes, we can see that a human can’t write this. +I only gave you 2 examples. +I can count 10 more here.
+Many pieces of ecvidence that remove the possibility of a human writing the Qur'an like the expandsion of the universe and sending down of the iron… +All of this information, being in this book; doesn’t it show that there’s a creator, and that He sent this book as a guide? -That would be logical. +Is there anything else? -I don’t have any questions. +What are you thinking? +Will you come? -I’ll come but, I hope I won’t leave. +There’s no getting out - don’t think that. +That’s a delusion from the devil. +If you have any questions, they all have answers. +Do you remember how to accept İslam again? -"There is no God but Allah and Muhammed is His Messenger."